who to take at #12?

Brand new 16 team keeper league H2H. Not the greatest pick in the league but Id like some input...Im thinking top offensive talent with the 12th and a stud tendy with my 2nd rder...HMMM...

Stats are as follows:
Scoring for Categories
+/- - Plus Minus 1 point
A - Assists 1 point
G - Goals 1 point
GAA - Goals Against Average 0.5 points
GWG - Game Winning Goals 0.5 points
PIM - Penalty Minutes 0.5 points
PPPTS - Power Play Points 1 point
S - Saves 0.5 points
SHPTS - Short Handed Points 0.5 points
SO - Shut Outs 0.5 points
SOG - Shots on Goal 0.5 points
SPct - Save Pct 1 point
W - Wins 1 point


So who will be left by then? and who would you take? wouldn't mind if you could also help me with my 2nd rder (being 21st overall)


THANKS GUYS!


EDIT: OH YA; 25 player roster; keep all; 12 active per night. (3/4 C, 4/6 W, 2/3 D, 1 G)

These picks are just my prediction that they will be availible, so I'll trow in 3 each..

For 12th pick i like:
Jarome Iginla
Eric Staal
Pavel Datsyuk

For 21st I like:
Ryan Getzlaf
Anze Kopitar
Ales Hemsky

Hope this helps

thanks curley...+1 karma...but what about a goalie? think ill still be able to get one of (lundy, fleury, price, luongo, bryzgalov, giguere, nabby, brodeur,leclaire with my 3rd? or whats your thoughts on that?)

You gotta go goalie first. Don't take a chance. It's virtually impossible to win a pool without a Tier 1 goalie.

And with your 2nd pick, you'll swipe a nice skater (ie. Phaneuf, Staal, Getzlaf)

Its hard to say as if you see a big run of goalies I would grab one... if you don't I would grab a top F like Iggy, Hossa or Kovy that should still be there and then grab a goalie with your 21st pick

Turco, Giggy maybe even broduer should be still left for you at 21

in any way you go make sure you grab a goalie with one of your first 2 picks if not you will be kicking your self after.

1st pick (I would grab a top winger over C)

1)Iggy
2)Hossa
3)Kovy

2nd pick

Top goalie thats left

Turco, Giggy, Broduer (he fell in one of my keeper leagues due to his age) Price, Miller etc

thanks guys and feel free to keep the input coming...ive been thinking of maybe taking Kovalchuk/Zetterberg/Datsyuk with my 1st pick, Getzlaf with my 2nd and then a leclaire/ward/turco with my 3rd and finally a solid Dman with my 4th... personally, I think Iggy will go top 6 BUT i see Kovalchuk sliding to 12th cuz of the situation of his team...would it be safe to take him? afterall he'll be minus a billion and what about the russian factor? (ie. KHL).

of course, this is just bonus questions you all are free to answer...but Im more worried about the initial question of this post WHO TO TAKE 12TH AND 21ST?

here is the first 4 rounds of a draft I just completed... It might give you an idea of where players might go and as you can see not alot of top goalies left in round 3... I would strongly advise you grab a goalie with your first 2 picks.

. Washington Capitals Alexander Ovechkin
2. Phoenix Coyotes Sidney Crosby
3. Calgary Flames Evgeni Malkin
4. Montreal Canadiens Vincent Lecavalier
5. (Traded by PIT) Colorado Avalanche Dany Heatley
6. (Traded by COL) Pittsburgh Penguins Roberto Luongo
7. Carolina Hurricanes Joe Thornton
8. Chicago Blackhawks Marc-Andre Fleury
9. San Jose Sharks Henrik Lundqvist
10. Columbus Blue Jackets Jason Spezza
11. New York Rangers Marian Hossa
12. Edmonton Oilers Jarome Iginla
13. Los Angeles Kings Dion Phaneuf
14. Detroit Red Wings Pavel Dastsyuk
15. Philadelphia Flyers Ilya Kovalchuk
16. Vancouver Canucks Carey Price
17. Tampa Bay Lightning Henrik Zetterberg
18. Boston Bruins Ryan Getzlaf

Rnd 2

19. Boston Bruins Thomas Vanek
20. Tampa Bay Lightning Evgeni Nabokov
21. Vancouver Canucks Patrick Kane
22. Philadelphia Flyers Rick Nash
23. Detroit Red Wings Martian Brodeur
24. Los Angeles Kings Mikka Kiprusoff
25. Edmonton Oilers Sergei Gonchar
26. New York Rangers Brenden Morrow
27. Columbus Blue Jackets Eric Staal
28. San Jose Sharks Ryan Miller
29. Chicago Blackhawks Mike Green
30. Carolina Hurricanes Anze Kopitar
31. (Traded by COL) Pittsburgh Penguins Ilya Bryzgalov
32. (Traded by PITT) Colorado Avalanche Rick DiPietro
33. Montreal Canadiens Cam Ward
34. Calgary Flames Marty Turco
35. Phoenix Coyotes Jean-Sebastien Giguere
36. Washington Capitals Nicklas Lidstrom

Rnd 3(scheduled picks starting July 25th)

All times in PST (CST +2 hours, EST +3 hours, Sydney +5 hours)

37. Washington Capitals July 25th 6am-8am Daniel Alfredsson
38. Phoenix Coyotes July 25th 8am-10am Pascal Leclaire
39. Calgary Flames July 25th 10am-12pm Andrei Markov
40. Montreal Canadiens July 25th 12pm-2pm Cristobal Huet
41. (Traded by PIT) Boston Bruins July 25th 2pm-4pm Niklas BackstromG
42. Colorado Avalanche July 25th 4pm-6pm Corey Perry
43. Carolina Hurricanes July 25th 6pm-8pm Marian Gaborik
44. Chicago Blackhawks July 25th 8pm-10pm Martin Biron
45. San Jose Sharks July 25th 10pm-12am Ollie Jokinen
46. Columbus Blue Jackets July 25th 6am-8am Vesa Toskala
47. New York Rangers July 25th 8am-10am José Theodore
48. Edmonton Oilers July 25th 10am-12pm Mike Smith
49. Los Angeles Kings July 25th 12pm-2pm Nicklas Backstrom C
50. Detroit Red Wings July 25th 2pm-4pm Chris Osgood
51. Philadelphia Flyers July 25th 4pm-6pm Kari Letonen
52. Vancouver Canucks July 25th 6pm-8pm Erick Johnson
53. Tampa Bay Lightning July 25th 8pm-10pm Daniel Sedin
54. (Traded by BOS) Pittsburgh Penguins July 25th 10pm-12am Jonathon Toews

Rnd 4

All times in PST (CST +2 hours, EST +3 hours, Sydney +5 hours)

55. (Traded by BOS) Pittsburgh Penguins July 26th 6am-8am Peter Mueller
56. (Traded by TBY) Vancouver Canucks July 26th 8am-10am Jonathan Bernier
57. Traded by VAN New York Rangers July 26th 10am-12pm Mike Richards
58. Philadelphia Flyers July 26th 12pm-2pm Tomas Vokoun
59. Detroit Red Wings July 26th 2pm-4pm Zach Parise
60. Los Angeles Kings July 26th 4pm-6pm Alex Tanguay
61. Edmonton Oilers July 26th 6pm-8pm Mathieu Garon
62. Traded by NYR and then by VAN Tampa Bay Lightning July 26th 8pm-10pmJosh Harding
63. Columbus Blue Jackets July 26th 10pm-12am Dan Ellis
64. San Jose Sharks July 27th 6am-8am Jason Pominville
65. Chicago Blackhawks July 27th 8am-10am Brent Burns
66. Carolina Hurricanes July 27th 10am-12pm Brian Campbell
67. (Traded by COL) Washington Capitals July 27th 12pm-2pm Derek Roy
68. (Traded by PIT and then by BOS) Tampa Bay Lightning July 27th 2pm-4pmPaul Stastny
69. Montreal Canadiens July 27th 4pm-6pm Michael Cammalleri
70. Calgary Flames July 27th 6pm-8pm Ales Hemsky
71. Phoenix Coyotes July 27th 8pm-10pm Zdeno Chara
72. (Traded by WSH) Colorado Avalanche July 27th 10pm-12am Dustin Brown

since +/- counts as 1 (vs other cats being .5) I would lean towards iggy zetterberg datsyuk hossa at 12 in that order. I'm not a big fan of kovy, especially on that team that he will be with for at least 1.5 years so why throw your 1st pick on him? 1 maybe 2 of those should be available there.

Looks like categories are 8:5, goalie stats 39% so I would use my 2nd pick on one, if a top tier is there, I also like phaneuf here. fleury, nabby, price, brodeur, turco in that order.

again thanks guys...what about trading some picks...what might my choices be there...any thoughts?

In my 3yr Keeper League, I've finished 1st-2nd- and 2nd.
All 3 years my Goalies have not been tier 1 Goalies.
I've always felt like there was always a Goalie out there availible that would get you close enough to stay in it. Thomas-Backstrum-DiPietro-Vokoun have helped me stay strong throughout the years.
I like players 1st, then Goalies. Thats MY strategy anyway..
Theres always a GOOD 70-80pt goalie around(Garon-Huet-Gerber etc)
I find more longevity with players than a Goalie..