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Top 100 Goalies

Written by Darryl Dobbs   
Sunday, 25 February 2007

 

The following is a list of the top 100 goaltenders to own in your fantasy pool. These are the goalies that I would love to own in a keeper league that includes the postseason and where points carry over in trades, in order. *Note: if your league does not have one or both of the above bolded stipulations, then I am sure you take issue with the list, but I can't please everyone.

 

As with the Fantasy Player list – the rating number is weighted according to actual value IN A KEEPER LEAGUE that includes the postseason and points carry over in trades.  The top handful of goaltenders are above and beyond the rest of the group, and it is reflected in their rating.

 

 

I use the following criteria:

 

1. How many wins the goaltender will pick up by the end of this season (or next season, if it is the April - September update)

2. The team they play for (this could give them added playoff value).

3. Where they sit on the depth chart.

4. How many years before they become a number one.  If they already are a number one goalie, they obviously have an advantage.

5. Proneness to injury.

6. General talent level, based on scouting reports and statistical performance.

7. Age.  So young you have to wait awhile?  So old his numbers are slipping?  Or...hitting his prime?

8. The potential to be a starting goalie. If they are destined to be a backup, then they are penalized quite a bit.

 

 

 

 

May 20GoalieTeamRatingMay 20Apr. 20
1Henrik LundqvistNYR152.311
2Roberto LuongoVAN146.132
3Steve MasonCBJ144.223
4Marc-Andre FleuryPIT141.566
5Evgeni NabokovSJ135.255
6Carey PriceMTL131.799
7Cam WardCAR131.488
8Semen VarlamovWAS130.41414
9Ryan MillerBUF130.277
10Miikka KiprusoffCGY127.944
11Tim ThomasBOS127.31212
12Martin BrodeurNJ127.01010
13Niklas BackstromMIN125.11111
14Pekka RinneNSH124.91313
15Ilja BryzgalovPHO120.61717
16Mike SmithTB115.61818
17Marty TurcoDAL115.41616
18Martin BironUFA113.91515
19Rick DipietroNYI110.41919
20Vesa ToskalaTOR109.32020
21Tomas VokounFLA107.92121
22Kari LehtonenATL106.32323
23Brian ElliottOTT106.12222
24Cristobal HuetCHI102.23030
25Tuukka RaskBOS102.23434
26Jaroslav HalakMTL101.82626
27Jonas HillerANA101.62424
28Cory SchneiderVAN101.12727
29Nikolai KhabibulinUFA100.32828
30J.S. GiguereANA100.02525
31Pascal LeclaireOTT96.23333
32Chris MasonSTL95.44040
33Ray EmeryPHI94.66666
34Michal NeuvirthWAS94.63636
35Jonathan BernierLA93.83737
36John CurryPIT93.74952
37Jose TheodoreWAS93.73232
38Jonathan QuickLA92.43939
39Chris OsgoodDET91.53535
40Peter BudajCOL90.13838
41Josh HardingMIN89.74141
42Ondrej PavelecATL87.84343
43Ty ConklinUFA87.62929
44Ben BishopSTL87.34444
45Al MontoyaPHO85.94646
46Mathieu GaronUFA85.73131
47Jimmy HowardDET85.74747
48Erik ErsbergLA85.04242
49Jacob MarkstromFLA84.45353
50Corey CrawfordCHI81.65150
51Dwayne RolosonUFA80.44848
52Justin PoggeTOR79.55049
53Dan EllisNSH78.26060
54Antero NiittymakiUFA77.24545
55Kevin LalandeCBJ76.55454
56Manny FernandezUFA76.15251
57Brad ThiessenPIT73.35656
58Jonas EnrothBUF73.25858
59Tobias StephanUFA72.75757
60Riku HeleniusTB71.65959
61Antti NiemiCHI71.35555
62Daniel LarssonDET70.26161
63Karri RamoTB68.66262
64Mike MurphyCAR67.48281
65Jason LabarberaUFA66.96363
66Richard BachmanDAL66.57579
67Jeff FrazeeNJ66.372117
68Martin GerberUFA65.96464
69Thomas McCollumDET65.46565
70Jeff DeslauriersEDM62.86767
71Chet PickardNSH62.66868
72Alexander SalakFLA61.8NRNR
73Craig AndersonUFA61.06969
74Dustin TokarskiTB60.97070
75Matt KeetleyCGY60.07171
76Leland IrvingCGY59.27372
77Jake AllenSTL58.27473
78Marek SchwarzSTL56.17876
79Trevor CannCOL55.47977
80Michael HutchinsonBOS55.48078
81Andrew RaycroftUFA53.48180
82Jeff ZatkoffLA52.28483
83Manny LegaceUFA51.28584
84Scott ClemmensenUFA49.18382
85Johan BacklundPHI48.38685
86Alexander AuldOTT48.18786
87Josh TordjmanPHO47.08887
88Hannu ToivonenSTL46.78988
89Joey MacDonaldUFA45.79089
90Yann DanisUFA44.39492
91Joacim ErikssonPHI44.093NR
92Mikael TellqvistUFA44.09291
93Curtis McElhinneyCGY42.19190
94Robert EscheUFA41.09896
95Matt ClimieDAL40.89593
96Jason BacashihuaCOL39.89694
97Timo PielmeierANA38.99997
98Drew MacIntyreUFA38.7105103
99Matt ZabaNYR37.7108106
100Brian BoucherUFA37.59795

 

 

Last Updated ( Friday, 19 June 2009 ) (49 comments)
 
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BDog
Posts: 340
[2009-06-22 19:05:13][Quote][Reply]
I think you will wonder what you were thinking when you put Varlamov at 8. Perhaps fatherhood has been keeping you up waaaay too late. The kid showed some crazy saves through the playoff run Washington had but he also showed he can let in some real softies. Far too early to be in the top 15 as far as I'm concerned. I mean seriously, you would honestly want an unproven, possible one hit wonder over a goalie like Kipper???
Slantman
Posts: 13
[2009-06-21 23:38:43][Quote][Reply]
Varlamov is WAY too high. I'm going to need an explanation before I take that ranking too seriously.
sentium
Posts: 3267
[2009-06-19 21:00:09][Quote][Reply]
I love how you're still listing Varlamov as Semen :D
GoalieGuild
Posts: 377
[2009-06-19 18:41:17][Quote][Reply]
Just for the record, Dobber is spot on with the Kings goalies. Quick has potential, Ersberg is better and Bernier is the future.
JawandaPuck
Posts: 0
[2009-06-19 18:17:59][Quote][Reply]
The formatting didn't work out to well on the below post. Here is the HF link where it looks right: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=19889286#post19889286
JawandaPuck
Posts: 0
[2009-06-19 18:15:44][Quote][Reply]
here's how I group them: Recent Grads Carey Price (AHL Playoff MVP and Cup Champ - 2007) Steve Mason Simeon Varlamov Jon Quick Brian Elliott Jaroslav Halak Jeff Deslauriers Pekka Rinne Mike Leighton (AHL Goalie of the Year - 2008) __________________________________________________ __ 1. NHL ready with elite potential Jonas Gustavsson (SWE Elitserien Champ - 2009) Tuukka Rask Cory Schneider (AHL Goalie of the Year - 2009) Ondrej Pavelec (AHL Calder Cup Champ -2008) 2. Pretty close to NHL ready with elite potential Michal Neuvirth (AHL Playoff MVP and Cup Champ - 2009) Jhonas Enroth Jeff Frazee Jonathan Bernier Riku Helenius Leland Irving 3. Elite Potential but a couple years away Jacob Markstrom (likely WJC starter for SWE) Jake Allen (likely WJC starter for CAN) Chet Pickard Thomas McCollum 4. Just a notch or two below the Young Elite Group directly above Dustin Tokarski Tyson Sexsmith Mike Murphy Braden Holtby Trevor Cann Harri Sateri Tyler Beskorowany Martin Jones (possible WJC starter for CAN) 5. Another year at least in the minors necessary with some upside Thomas Greiss Jeff Zatkoff Mark Dekanich Devan Dubnyk Corey Crawford Daniel Larsson Richard Bachman 6. Pretty close to NHL ready but with Back Up Potential Al Montoya (wild card - showed some signs of regaining elite potential level) Dan LaCosta Ben Bishop Kari Ramo Nathan Lawson Matt Zaba Jim Howard Justin Pogge Matt Keetley John Curry Drew MacIntyre
tryhard87
Posts: 381
[2009-06-19 16:01:57][Quote][Reply]
Also, I see you moved up Varlamov a ton.. I am in a rebuilding mode right now for a team so if I could move Rinne for Varlamov is it a must make trade? (playoff stats don't count in this league)
tryhard87
Posts: 381
[2009-06-19 15:56:55][Quote][Reply]
So these rankings don't include the stats from this year so no longer the "points that carry over in trades" apply to them, right?
Dobber
Posts: 5937
[2009-06-19 13:46:36][Quote][Reply]
No Gustavsson until he signs. No draftees until they are drafted.
Dobber
Posts: 5937
[2009-06-19 13:41:23][Quote][Reply]
Nos - I would sing the same tune for any goalie who only has just four months of experience. Quick is a good goaltender, with potential. But my feeling is that Ersberg is a better goalie, and Bernier is the goalie of the future there. Is my opinion wrong? Sure it could be. But I don't go to your website and call you "retarded" for giving your opinion. Take my opinion for what it is worth - sometimes right, sometimes wrong. I don't have a "schtick": what I have is a personality. If you want vanilla, or "faceless" commentary, there are plenty of sites out there.
Nos
Posts: 0
[2009-06-11 08:16:58][Quote][Reply]
Looks like every time I refresh the page it posts another message, strange, my bad. By the way, had Quick played in Columbus you'd be singing a different tune.
Nos
Posts: 0
[2009-06-11 08:12:09][Quote][Reply]
The comments about Quick are simply retarded and make me question a prospect guide purchase. Add to that the tone of response, maybe that's your shtick but it makes for some pretty disrespectful commentary.
Dobber
Posts: 5937
[2009-05-22 13:28:54][Quote][Reply]
Luongo - time to bring him down a peg. Leclaire - Band-Aid Boy. How many seasons does he need to go through this before you acknowledge that? He is hurt EVERY year and I wouldn't want him on my team in a million years. I would drop him for Elliott in a heartbeat. Gustavsson - not until he signs. Mason vs. Rinne - this ranking system is based on their value, both in hard stats as well as in perception. Obviously, since I battle people over the Rinne/Mason issue there is a huge perception that Mason is 10x better
Dobber
Posts: 5937
[2009-05-22 13:25:52][Quote][Reply]
Lanky, you are "quick" to jump on and off goalie and player bandwagons. Thank goodness my rankings are here to keep you grounded. Quick has played for what three months? A stopgap for Bernier and possible career backup? Versus Neuvirth who could be the starter for Washington? Remember - Theodore is inconsistent and Varlamov is injury prone. It could happen. Neuvirth's team gives an automatic 40 wins to their starter. LA's team? To give a 1A or 1B starter? What are we looking at - 20 wins? Haha
lanky
Posts: 1570
[2009-05-21 17:58:47][Quote][Reply]
is anyone else as curious as to how quick is behind budaj? For that matter, he's behind goalies that haven't even proven anything at the NHL level yet. I mean Neuvirth who spent nearly all this year in the ECHL is ahead of him on this list. Now i'm a caps fan, and i like Neuvirth and everything... but how anyone can value him more highly (with theodore and varlamov "ahead" of him on the depth chart) than a guy who will very likely enter the 2009-10 season as a starter is beyond me.
Scribe
Posts: 274
[2009-05-21 12:39:01][Quote][Reply]
As a Mason owner, I'm not complaining about him leap-frogging Luongo. Can we safely assume, Dobber, that you were more disappointed in Luongo's playoff effort than Mason's? Or is there some other factor behind it?
happypg
Posts: 69
[2009-05-21 09:19:39][Quote][Reply]
I don't understand where you are coming from WestCoast. Unless you are JUST looking at playoff numbers, Osgood is terrible. He gets a lot of wins based on his team, and a 3.09 GAA and .887 Sv% killed a lot of fantasy teams (mine included).
bluejays
Posts: 678
[2009-05-19 22:50:05][Quote][Reply]
Agree that Mason over Luongo is a stretch. I'm also interested how Elliot and LeClaire are 22 and 33. I was under the impression that Leclaire should play 50 while Elliot is good for 30? Seems like Ott made the trade to acquire a bonifide #1 (although I'm not a fan of PL) where as Elliot should be pushed farther back now. I also think Turco should be back to a top 10-12. Dallas will be a much better team next year with no injuries and I'm sure he regain his form. He is only 33.
ItsAlwaysSunnyInDetroit
Posts: 308
[2009-05-19 18:55:08][Quote][Reply]
Yeah, Mason ahead of Luongo seems a stretch to me. The problem is that Vancouver has some ? marks this off season. IDK, me personally, I like Luongo 2nd. Where's Gustavsson on this list?
WestCoastSteez
Posts: 194
[2009-05-19 18:27:35][Quote][Reply]
lol I wish all these Osgood haters were in my League. All this guy does is post good numbers on the championship team... and he gets hated for it. Some players just will never get any respect. If these rankings really are based on a players 'tradeablility', then Osgood should be much higher then 35. While not a longterm option like Neuvirth, who is 36, Osgood still should command huge prices in the short term; and his 'short-term' is still 2 seasons. If I was a top contender looking to make a charge at a few championships in a row, I would give Osgood a LOOOONG look compared to Valarmov. Also I 100% agree with you Sakic19, every word. -cheers
WestCoastSteez
Posts: 194
[2009-05-19 18:17:19][Quote][Reply]
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA, what a good laugh to start the day.
sakic19
Posts: 718
[2009-05-19 16:52:53][Quote][Reply]
Wow Luongo not first on the list? ABit shocking. But I really find questionable is that although Dobber compared Mason and Rinne all year, and they seemed to have very similar stats, why the huge gap between the two? I really have no idea who would trade Luongo for Mason. And I know its by a small margin on the rankings, but it would take alot more than Mason to get Luongo off me in a pool.
paul4
Posts: 33
[2009-04-24 21:04:38][Quote][Reply]
Lanky: I wish our pool had more keepers. I hear talk about some leagues which have full keepers as well as a farm team. On the flip side, with only 9 keepers (half your roster), you can rebuild a team with rookies and be competitive within 1 year. Perhaps then I will be drafting Varlamov. Luongo is my obvious keeper, and Im sure I could get Varlamov in the second or third round. Watching the game now, and the Rangers are not putting up much of a fight. Would like to see Varlamov against Pit.
lanky
Posts: 1570
[2009-04-24 11:17:33][Quote][Reply]
paul4: varlamov moved up so drastically for the same reason that mason and rinne moved up drastically half-way through the year... they went from being... yeah they are a valuable prospect, to being... yeah they are a really valuable young goalie. Their value drastically increased (whether or not it should have), and people value them incredibly highly now. I don't know... in any of the leagues i'm in, if i offer osgood straight up for varlamov, i'd get laughed at. Plain and simple... and that what this list is about... it's about typical trade value it's not just about who's better or who plays in the better situation necessarily... think of this list as a temperature gauge for how "hot" a commodity each guy is in the typical fantasy world.
paul4
Posts: 33
[2009-04-23 23:30:00][Quote][Reply]
of 8 guaranteed. Osgood only has 1 year left. Speaking of Howard, he is only listed at 47. Conklin (FA at 33 years old with spotty career) should swap spots with Howard. I just think Varlamov moved up too fast.
paul4
Posts: 33
[2009-04-23 23:29:02][Quote][Reply]
Nobody predicted Giguere would flame out so much. Everybody thought Leclaire would be the #1 guy, so Steve Mason was a huge surprise. Rinne was not much of a surprise. With Osgood and Conklin (along with Luongo), I ruled our pool this year. His DET stats were invaluable. Det will lose one of Hossa, Samuelsson or Hudler. The D stays exactly the same. And Det can't afford another goalie, so it will be Osgood and Howard next year. That duo will get you 50 wins and a GAA of
lanky
Posts: 1570
[2009-04-22 02:16:11][Quote][Reply]
paul4: you're pretty foolish if you value osgood higher than varlamov if you ask me... osgood is terrible. with a capital "t." Detroit will not be deeper next year. They have too many guys up for new contracts to keep their team as it currently is. That means that osgood will have less support next year to bail him out when he's terrible (always). While you may not value varlamov more than osgood, you're probably the only one. I mean who wouldn't take a 20 year old, on a team that is on it's way up over a 35+ year old, on a team that will likely get hit very hard by the cap in a year or two? I imagine you are the type that valued giguere more highly than rinne and steve mason at the start of this year...
paul4
Posts: 33
[2009-04-22 00:18:28][Quote][Reply]
I understand how the rankings work, but I think it will be hard to find someone who puts Varlamov so high. I own Osgood, and there is NO way he gets traded for Varlamov. Osgood is on the best team in the league, and got a shutout in the playoffs JUST like Varlamov. Given detroits cap situation, they can't afford another goalie, so next year it will be Osgood and Howard. Anybody who treats Varlamov as anything better right now is just asking for trouble. This gives me an idea...
STONE.
Posts: 754
[2009-04-21 20:30:44][Quote][Reply]
I love the fact that Varlamov is still listed as "Semen". So funny. I'm not sure what happened with earlier post, but I was just happy to see DiPietro climbing -- he sat on my bench all year in my keeper, and I still have hopes he can be a solid backup for me.
lanky
Posts: 1570
[2009-04-21 20:23:32][Quote][Reply]
paul4: one of the common misconceptions with dobbers list is that they are rankings that indicate how valuable a player is. They aren't. These rankings are indicative of how tradeable a player is. So yeah, steve mason is high because people are still high on his horse. Varlamov had a jump because after getting 2 starts and stealing the job from theodore at the most crucial point in the year, it'll be that much harder to acquire him via trade. Lundqvist isn't necessarily the best goalie in the league, but per dobber's rankings, he's the one goalie that you can trade for any other goalie. Thinking about it that way should help you understand the rankings a bit better.
paul4
Posts: 33
[2009-04-21 19:14:40][Quote][Reply]
Varlamov 14th after a couple good games? What the?!?!? Also surprised to see Steve Mason so high given he only has one season under his belt. The one thing that kills these goalies is consistency from year to year, and he has yet to prove anything. Not only that but Columbus is still not as strong as a SJ or Pit. Chris Mason looks to have returned to form and the team in front of him is surprising quite a bit. Young with loads of tallent. J.S. Giguere should have dropped more. He has disappeared.
lanky
Posts: 1570
[2009-04-21 18:40:18][Quote][Reply]
What are we looking at with Quick next year? He was really pretty darn good this year in LA, and i don't really get the impression that Bernier is ready for the bigs quite yet... Is quick worth holding onto in a keeper league where keeper decisions have to be made?
lanky
Posts: 1570
[2009-04-21 18:38:25][Quote][Reply]
westcoaststeez: Lundqvist played the whole year, while luey didn't. As much as you may favor one over the other, often times the difference between guys on these lists is "injury concern." Lundqvist has none, whereas luey has a tiny bit. Hence the very small margin between the two.
WestCoastSteez
Posts: 194
[2009-04-21 15:55:47][Quote][Reply]
I am a Canucks fan... but would anyone really draft Lundqvist over Luongo right now? -Cheers
STONE.
Posts: 754
[2009-04-21 13:38:52][Quote][Reply]
Seeing DiPietro climb a bit gives me
teddy369
Posts: 214
[2009-04-21 12:33:31][Quote][Reply]
Just want to get a little clarification on a couple of players. You have Hiller/Giguere in the 24th/25th spots. Can we take this as you suggesting there will be a timeshare next year. Or can we take it as, despite Hiller's good numbers this year and Giguere's bad numbers, Giguere will take the #1 spot back next year so they are ranked similarily. If it's the latter why is Giguere so low in your rankings? Also, on Schneider. Do you think he's much more talented then his counterparts in Bernier or Rask? I know he put up impressive numbers in the AHL this year, but his NHL debut wasn't nearly as helpful to your current fantasy season. Schneider is stuck behind Luongo and while the same can be said for Rask, Bernier seems to be in a position where the starting job in the future is his to lose. So in short, talent wise Schneider is better than Bernier to justify a 10 position difference? Or are there other factors in play?
Oilers rock 99
Posts: 23
[2009-03-24 01:37:26][Quote][Reply]
I will differ to next seaon but in the mean time I love your site easilest the best fantasy siet I have come across.
Dobber
Posts: 5937
[2009-03-22 15:39:21][Quote][Reply]
If you remove his 4-10-4 record after his sprained ankle, then you have numbers superior to Halak. I love Halak - I feel like he was one of my "discoveries" along the lines of Carcillo, Versteeg, etc - you know, players who are unknown but I mention before they explode on the scene. I don't have a long list, but Halak is on it and I always have a soft spot. He will be a starter. Just not in Montreal Your words "man crush" are appropriate - for Canadiens' brass. They love him and will give him every chance to succeed. He could lose 50 in a row and they'll keep going with him. So trust me - Price will be a superstar. All you can do is watch and wait to see if I'm right. I know I will be. We can argue back and forth like the Dan Ellis backers argued with me that he would be the starter all year for Nashville. Or we can wait until this time next year and have the argument settled for us ;) PS - thanks for drawing my attention to Koskinen
Oilers rock 99
Posts: 23
[2009-03-22 04:24:35][Quote][Reply]
well dobber........ if price was 16-4-4 to start that makes him 4-10-4 since that doesn't sound like a goalie who just hit a blip. based on just pure #'s GAA and save% and winning % he isnt even the best goalie in montreal halak has had far better #'s at every level. with prices record and #'s he should have never risen from 7th in feb to 6th in march unless you are letting your man crush get in the way...???(Halak was rated 25th) to take this further halak has a NHL winning % of .539 price is .511 halak gas only 4 ot losses in his career where price has 11 (8 this year) with the tight races teams cant afford to give away thoes extra points.. one more step if you factor thoes ot losses in, price has a record of 20-22 this year and halak is 16-13. so based on the info above yes I still feel price is over rated!!
ultrawhiteness
Posts: 5075
[2009-03-21 22:41:24][Quote][Reply]
haha, you tell em dobbs!
saywhaaaaat
Posts: 72
[2009-03-21 10:16:05][Quote][Reply]
Dobber -- does your league count GAA, SV% or SO, or only W? I ask because the header makes it seem like only wins are counted...
Dobber
Posts: 5937
[2009-03-21 10:02:20][Quote][Reply]
I own Bryzgalov and I wouldn't trade him in my league under my league rules for Vokoun. No way. Mason at 4 - that's my opinion, yes. In my league, the guy who owns Mason will not trade him straight up for anyone in the league but those fellows in the Top 3. UFA rules - they must be drafted or signed to get on my list. Price - your words spoken have to be a joke. Let me get this straight. The guy leads his WJC team to gold, then he steps into the AHL and wins the MVP en route to winning the championship...then he makes the NHL at 20, and this year starts off 16-4-4... and because he sprains his ankle and returns slowly for a couple of months he is "overrated" and "cracks at any sign of pressure"? Quit jumping on and off bandwagons after minor short-term trends.
Oilers rock 99
Posts: 23
[2009-03-21 04:35:59][Quote][Reply]
well Dobber I'm not sure what your critera is with UFA's but if you are including Robert esche then you should really look at MIKKO KOSKINEN from the Finnish elite league. there will be a bidding war much higher than Brunstrom was last year this guy should be in the top 50 as a UFA thats how good he is and possibally much higher depending who signs him.
Oilers rock 99
Posts: 23
[2009-03-21 04:25:53][Quote][Reply]
Carey Price?? possibally the most over rated guy so far he is not even the most tallented guy in MTL. he cracks at any sign of pressure.. and Tomas Vokoun at 20th?? he has had great #'s on very bad teams now that FLA is comming around he must be worth more than guys like: smith(TB),Ilja Bryzgalov(PHO)??
joos
Posts: 2595
[2009-03-20 23:19:19][Quote][Reply]
really Mason @ 4? its probably pretty high right now, is this realistically?
Dobber
Posts: 5937
[2009-03-20 20:55:25][Quote][Reply]
Brodeur - zero value to owners who are going for it this year under my keeper league rules. So his value is only in the future. It will shoot back into the Top 4 in the summer.
vicwest
Posts: 269
[2009-03-20 19:41:14][Quote][Reply]
Brodeur 19th....no way he's still top 7 easy at least three years left of great production...y
GoHabsGo
Posts: 367
[2009-03-20 19:16:25][Quote][Reply]
Hey Dobber! The spreadsheet still says Feb 20. It should be March 20. Oooops!
GoHabsGo
Posts: 367
[2009-03-20 19:11:57][Quote][Reply]
Hey Dobber! The spreadsheet still says Feb 20. It should be March 20. Oooops!
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