Top 300 Keeper League Skaters – March 2017

by Dobber on March 6, 2017 | (23 Comments)

The Top 300 skaters to own in your points-only keeper league - March edition. McDavid back on top

 

The adjustments from the trade deadline are in and here are the results. Don't forget, +/- 5.0 rating points should be considered equal value and any trade involving two players in that range would depend on need. These are for points-only leagues where positions do not matter. Factors in short-term, long-term, proneness to injury, place in the depth chart, distance from prime years

 

March Player Team DEF? Rating Feb Jan Change
1 Connor McDavid EDM   192.4 2 1 1
2 Sidney Crosby PIT   191.2 1 2 -1
3 Patrick Kane CHI   158.0 3 3 0
4 Evgeni Malkin PIT   151.0 4 5 0
5 Tyler Seguin DAL   142.7 7 4 2
6 Nicklas Backstrom WAS   142.5 6 11 0
7 Nikita Kucherov TBL   141.1 10 8 3
8 Alex Ovechkin WAS   135.4 5 9 -3
9 Brent Burns SJS y 135.1 14 18 5
10 Jamie Benn DAL   134.4 9 7 -1
11 Mark Scheifele WPG   132.6 11 16 0
12 Vladimir Tarasenko STL   129.1 8 6 -4
13 John Tavares NYI   127.9 12 10 -1
14 Phil Kessel PIT   124.5 13 13 -1
15 Evgeny Kuznetsov WAS   122.5 15 27 0
16 Patrik Laine WPG   120.2 20 21 4
17 Artemi Panarin CHI   119.3 16 12 -1
18 Erik Karlsson OTT y 117.5 17 14 -1
19 Auston Matthews TOR   114.5 19 15 0
20 Brad Marchand BOS   114.2 42 55 22
21 Leon Draisaitl EDM   112.1 18 24 -3
22 Joe Pavelski SJS   110.1 22 20 0
23 Jack Eichel BUF   107.7 29 25 6
24 Nikolaj Ehlers WPG   106.1 26 30 2
25 Jakub Voracek PHI   106.0 21 22 -4
26 Blake Wheeler WPG   105.7 27 26 1
27 Mikael Granlund MIN   102.3 45 49 18
28 Johnny Gaudreau CGY   100.8 24 23 -4
29 Mitch Marner TOR   100.8 30 39 1
30 Cam Atkinson CBJ   98.5 28 29 -2
31 Ryan Getzlaf ANA   98.0 23 17 -8
32 Ryan Johansen NSH   97.5 34 33 2
33 Nathan MacKinnon COL   96.6 31 35 -2
34 Filip Forsberg NSH   96.0 46 43 12
35 Max Pacioretty MON   93.5 36 42 1
36 Alexander Wennberg CBJ   93.2 32 38 -4
37 Mark Stone OTT   92.9 35 37 -2
38 Jonathan Toews CHI   91.7 56 80 18
39 Victor Hedman TBL y 90.7 48 77 9
40 Claude Giroux PHI   89.2 25 19 -15
41 Taylor Hall NJD   89.1 43 36 2
42 James van Riemsdyk TOR   88.1 41 47 -1
43 Matt Duchene COL   87.2 33 28 -10
44 David Pastrnak BOS   85.6 57 62 13
45 Jeff Carter LAK   85.4 52 57 7
46 Sean Monahan CGY   84.8 61 61 15
47 Jonathan Drouin TBL   82.8 47 53 0
48 Alexander Radulov MON   82.6 50 50 2
49 Derek Stepan NYR   82.2 38 40 -11
50 Anze Kopitar LAK   81.7 44 34 -6
51 J.T. Miller NYR   81.6 65 75 14
52 Logan Couture SJS   81.1 53 54 1
53 Steven Stamkos TBL   81.0 37 32 -16
54 Corey Perry ANA   80.4 40 31 -14
55 Nazem Kadri TOR   79.5 59 78 4
56 Alex Galchenyuk MON   79.0 51 46 -5
57 Brandon Saad CBJ   78.0 49 45 -8
58 Tyler Johnson TBL   76.8 77 71 19
59 Mike Hoffman OTT   76.7 54 56 -5
60 Aleksander Barkov FLA   76.3 60 44 0
61 Nino Niederreiter MIN   76.3 75 89 14
62 Nick Foligno CBJ   76.1 39 41 -23
63 Chris Kreider NYR   74.6 64 65 1
64 Ryan O'Reilly BUF   74.1 58 58 -6
65 Kyle Okposo BUF   73.0 66 63 1
66 Kevin Shattenkirk WAS y 72.9 78 88 12
67 Jordan Eberle EDM   72.3 55 48 -12
68 Kyle Turris OTT   72.1 69 76 1
69 Charlie Coyle MIN   71.9 63 68 -6
70 Sam Reinhart BUF   71.9 72 79 2
71 Brayden Schenn PHI   70.8 62 52 -9
72 William Nylander TOR   70.5 90 93 18
73 T.J. Oshie WAS   70.4 76 103 3
74 John Klingberg DAL y 69.7 83 106 9
75 Mats Zuccarello NYR   69.0 71 70 -4
76 Marcus Johansson WAS   68.5 82 85 6
77 Wayne Simmonds PHI   67.5 67 60 -10
78 Viktor Arvidsson NSH   67.1 117 148 39
79 Joe Thornton SJS   66.6 74 51 -5
80 Dustin Byfuglien WPG y 66.1 91 97 11
81 Kevin Hayes NYR   64.6 85 83 4
82 Vincent Trocheck FLA   64.3 94 110 12
83 Bo Horvat VAN   63.7 95 96 12
84 Kris Letang PIT y 63.7 99 64 15
85 Henrik Zetterberg DET   63.4 106 104 21
86 Jonathan Huberdeau FLA   61.9 88 66 2
87 Jeff Skinner CAR   61.8 68 67 -19
88 Patrice Bergeron BOS   61.5 153 153 65
89 Oliver Ekman-Larsson ARI y 60.5 97 95 8
90 Jaden Schwartz STL   59.8 80 94 -10
91 Milan Lucic EDM   59.7 87 74 -4
92 Duncan Keith CHI y 59.2 108 115 16
93 P.K. Subban NSH y 59.2 100 87 7
94 Roman Josi NSH y 58.5 110 98 16
95 Jakob Silfverberg ANA   58.4 101 113 6
96 Robby Fabbri STL   58.4 86 72 -10
97 Eric Staal MIN   58.4 73 81 -24
98 Bryan Little WPG   58.3 103 135 5
99 Ryan Kesler ANA   57.7 96 102 -3
100 Rickard Rakell ANA   57.4 70 69 -30
101 Tyler Toffoli LAK   57.3 104 59 3
102 Drew Doughty LAK y 57.2 105 109 3
103 Jonathan Marchessault FLA   57.1 92 82 -11
104 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins EDM   56.8 98 86 -6
105 Patric Hornqvist PIT   56.5 81 84 -24
106 Victor Rask CAR   56.3 79 90 -27
107 Teuvo Teravainen  CAR   56.2 84 92 -23
108 Kyle Palmieri NJD   55.8 116 128 8
109 Conor Sheary PIT   55.5 112 123 3
110 Sam Bennett CGY   55.3 89 73 -21
111 Matthew Tkachuk CGY   54.7 113 158 2
112 Gabriel Landeskog COL   54.5 93 91 -19
113 David Krejci BOS   54.5 134 132 21
114 Mikko Koivu MIN   53.7 147 161 33
115 Max Domi ARI   52.3 120 122 5
116 Dougie Hamilton CGY y 51.9 121 133 5
117 Andre Burakovsky WAS   51.8 107 130 -10
118 Elias Lindholm CAR   51.5 133 159 15
119 Derick Brassard OTT   51.3 122 125 3
120 Tanner Pearson LAK   50.9 149 149 29
121 Tyler Bozak TOR   50.7 123 146 2
122 Jason Spezza DAL   50.3 111 101 -11
123 John Carlson WAS y 49.6 130 107 7
124 Shea Weber MON y 49.5 119 120 -5
125 Torey Krug BOS y 49.5 161 196 36
126 Mika Zibanejad NYR   49.4 114 114 -12
127 Ryan Spooner BOS   49.1 141 144 14
128 Anthony Mantha DET   48.7 127 121 -1
129 Ondrej Palat TBL   48.6 132 108 3
130 Artem Anisimov CHI   48.1 102 100 -28
131 Jason Zucker MIN   47.3 151 162 20
132 Sam Gagner CBJ   46.7 109 99 -23
133 Sebastian Aho CAR   46.5 150 150 17
134 James Neal NSH   46.4 136 118 2
135 Radim Vrbata ARI   46.3 168 180 33
136 Seth Jones CBJ y 46.1 129 147 -7
137 Jesse Puljujarvi EDM   45.9 137 116 0
138 Zach Werenski CBJ y 45.3 135 124 -3
139 Rasmus Ristolainen BUF y 45.2 140 145 1
140 Bobby Ryan OTT   44.8 125 134 -15
141 Justin Schultz PIT y 44.8 142 177 1
142 Gustav Nyquist DET   43.3 118 117 -24
143 Tomas Tatar DET   43.2 131 131 -12
144 Thomas Vanek FLA   42.7 143 155 -1
145 Ryan Strome NYI   42.7 148 142 3
146 Zach Parise MIN   41.5 128 126 -18
147 Tyson Barrie COL y 40.8 144 136 -3
148 Evander Kane BUF   40.7 152 172 4
149 Mikael Backlund CGY   40.6 164 181 15
150 Josh Bailey NYI   40.6 158 185 8
151 Adam Henrique NJD   40.3 145 138 -6
152 Dylan Larkin DET   38.6 126 129 -26
153 Alex Pietrangelo STL y 37.6 154 157 1
154 Anders Lee NYI   36.8 171 186 17
155 Alexander Steen STL   36.6 156 140 1
156 Mikko Rantanen COL   36.1 163 171 7
157 Sven Bärtschi VAN   36.0 146 160 -11
158 Ryan Suter MIN y 35.6 155 156 -3
159 Keith Yandle FLA y 35.6 170 127 11
160 Jason Pominville MIN   35.0 248 250 88
161 Henrik Sedin VAN   34.9 138 112 -23
162 Brock Nelson NYI   34.3 184 152 22
163 Mathieu Perreault WPG   33.7 232 234 69
164 Ryan McDonagh NYR y 33.6 162 154 -2
165 Rick Nash NYR   32.4 124 119 -41
166 Vladislav Namestnikov TBL   32.4 182 141 16
167 Jake Gardiner TOR y 32.0 167 174 0
168 Paul Stastny STL   31.8 175 188 7
169 Dylan Strome ARI   31.8 181 179 12
170 Christian Dvorak ARI   31.7 183 168 13
171 Richard Panik CHI   31.5 300 298 129
172 Colin Wilson NSH   31.4 185 175 13
173 David Perron STL   31.1 177 194 4
174 Nick Leddy NYI y 31.0 189 212 15
175 Michael Frolik CGY   30.9 187 190 12
176 Shayne Gostisbehere PHI y 30.9 159 151 -17
177 Alex Killorn TBL   30.8 172 137 -5
178 Tomas Hertl SJS   30.8 160 167 -18
179 Connor Brown TOR   30.8 180 216 1
180 Daniel Sedin VAN   30.6 115 111 -65
181 Marian Hossa CHI   29.7 176 195 -5
182 Justin Faulk CAR y 29.4 188 169 6
183 Ryan Dzingel OTT   29.3 174 184 -9
184 Brendan Gallagher MON   29.2 139 105 -45
185 Patrick Maroon EDM   28.9 190 227 5
186 Matt Niskanen WAS y 28.5 196 274 10
187 Morgan Rielly TOR y 28.2 169 143 -18
188 Jordan Staal CAR   27.3 194 223 6
189 Valtteri Filppula PHI   27.0 157 164 -32
190 Travis Zajac NJD   26.8 246 218 56
191 Cam Fowler ANA y 26.8 173 170 -18
192 Jean-Gabriel Pageau OTT   26.6 192 189 0
193 Mikhail Grigorenko COL   26.3 197 207 4
194 Ryan Ellis NSH y 26.2 214 230 20
195 David Backes BOS   26.0 200 187 5
196 Jake Guentzel PIT   26.0 201 225 5
197 Mathew Barzal NYI   25.9 202 209 5
198 Oliver Bjorkstrand CBJ   25.8 203 211 5
199 Justin Williams WAS   25.7 233 291 34
200 Michael Grabner NYR   25.6 205 224 5
201 Travis Konecny PHI   25.3 166 163 -35
202 Anthony Duclair ARI   25.3 206 200 4
203 Sean Couturier PHI   25.0 199 183 -4
204 Andreas Athanasiou DET   25.0 198 219 -6
205 Mark Giordano CGY y 24.9 193 198 -12
206 Aaron Ekblad FLA y 24.8 209 204 3
207 Martin Hanzal MIN   24.7 247 199 40
208 Jacob Trouba WPG y 24.7 210 253 2
209 Pierre-Luc Dubois CBJ   24.6 211 178 2
210 Devin Shore DAL   24.4 238 259 28
211 Nick Schmaltz CHI   24.0 269 271 58
212 Brayden Point TBL   23.9 208 208 -4
213 Nick Bonino PIT   23.8 186 173 -27
214 Bryan Rust PIT   23.7 207 242 -7
215 Brent Seabrook CHI y 23.6 213 202 -2
216 Nick Bjugstad FLA   23.4 215 201 -1
217 Jimmy Vesey NYR   22.8 178 139 -39
218 Patrick Marleau SJS   22.8 362 401 144
219 Frans Nielsen DET   22.5 179 182 -40
220 Kevin Fiala NSH   22.5 218 226 -2
221 Kyle Connor WPG   22.5 220 215 -1
222 Nick Ritchie ANA   22.3 222 229 0
223 Reilly Smith FLA   22.2 224 192 1
224 Matt Dumba MIN y 22.1 225 248 1
225 Oscar Klefbom EDM y 22.0 319 346 94
226 Colton Parayko STL y 21.8 227 222 1
227 Artturi Lehkonen MON   21.2 221 244 -6
228 Tobias Rieder ARI   21.1 230 255 2
229 Nikolay Goldobin VAN   21.1 231 233 2
230 Clayton Keller ARI   21.0 235 237 5
231 Nail Yakupov STL   20.8 223 214 -8
232 Jakub Vrana WAS   20.7 237 238 5
233 Joel Eriksson Ek MIN   20.7 239 239 6
234 Kevin Labanc SJS   20.7 240 240 6
235 Scott Hartnell CBJ   20.2 165 166 -70
236 Tyler Ennis BUF   20.0 219 228 -17
237 Sven Andrighetto COL   20.0 243 252 6
238 Zach Hyman TOR   19.5 212 231 -26
239 Dmitry Orlov WAS y 19.3 195 272 -44
240 Pavel Buchnevich NYR   19.1 229 260 -11
241 Valeri Nichushkin DAL   18.9 244 243 3
242 Erik Haula MIN   18.9 250 261 8
243 Pavel Zacha NJD   18.8 245 245 2
244 Damon Severson NJD y 18.7 253 213 9
245 Brendan Perlini ARI   18.6 254 287 9
246 Drake Caggiula EDM   18.6 255 257 9
247 Timo Meier SJS   18.6 256 247 9
248 Tomas Plekanec MON   18.5 204 191 -44
249 Denis Malgin FLA   18.2 260 262 11
250 Alex Tuch MIN   18.0 262 258 12
251 Alec Martinez LAK y 17.9 226 217 -25
252 Charles Hudon MON   17.9 263 264 11
253 Brett Ritchie DAL   17.9 264 256 11
254 Nicolas Petan WPG   17.8 251 251 -3
255 Frank Vatrano BOS   17.8 265 265 10
256 Brandon Sutter VAN   17.4 242 249 -14
257 Lawson Crouse ARI   17.4 267 268 10
258 Colin White OTT   17.3 268 270 10
259 Carl Soderberg COL   17.2 258 193 -1
260 Brock Boeser VAN   17.1 270 273 10
261 Nikita Zaitsev TOR y 16.9 287 304 26
262 Mike Cammalleri NJD   16.9 191 206 -71
263 Austin Czarnik BOS   16.7 274 275 11
264 Sonny Milano CBJ   16.6 276 276 12
265 Ivan Provorov PHI y 16.6 249 289 -16
266 Shane Prince NYI   16.5 272 221 6
267 Tyler Motte CHI   16.4 273 263 6
268 Mike Fisher NSH   16.1 281 328 13
269 Zack Smith OTT   16.1 252 491 -17
270 Danton Heinen BOS   16.0 282 281 12
271 Francis Perron OTT   15.9 271 269 0
272 Paul Byron MON   15.8 217 205 -55
273 Brady Skjei NYR y 15.8 372 399 99
274 Jayce Hawryluk FLA   15.8 285 284 11
275 Brendan Leipsic TOR   15.7 286 285 11
276 Andrew Ladd NYI   15.6 236 210 -40
277 Alexander Nylander BUF   15.6 288 280 11
278 Boone Jenner CBJ   15.5 234 165 -44
279 Mike Green DET y 15.5 241 278 -38
280 Sami Vatanen ANA y 15.3 216 197 -64
281 Patrick Eaves ANA   15.3 275 369 -6
282 Ivan Barbashev STL   15.3 290 290 8
283 Jared Spurgeon MIN y 15.3 324 359 41
284 Evgeny Svechnikov DET   15.2 292 293 8
285 Jared McCann FLA   15.0 293 277 8
286 Nick Holden NYR y 15.0 294 329 8
287 Joonas Donskoi SJS   14.9 257 236 -30
288 Hunter Shinkaruk CGY   14.8 283 283 -5
289 Nathan Beaulieu MON y 14.8 259 308 -30
290 Anthony Beauvillier NYI   14.8 295 296 5
291 Anton Rodin VAN   14.8 284 294 -7
292 TJ Brodie CGY y 14.6 298 266 6
293 Nick Cousins PHI   14.6 299 297 6
294 Chris Tierney SJS   14.4 301 299 7
295 Mikkel Boedker SJS   14.4 302 301 7
296 Kenny Agostino STL   14.3 NR NR NEW
297 Andrej Sekera EDM y 14.1 261 318 -36
298 Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson BOS   14.0 306 309 8
299 Alan Quine NYI   13.9 291 292 -8
300 Nikita Scherbak MON   13.6 356 305 56
               
               
March Player Team DEF? Rating Feb Jan Change
218 Patrick Marleau SJS   22.8 362 401 144
405 Mark Streit PIT y 6.6 543 471 138
171 Richard Panik CHI   31.5 300 298 129
273 Brady Skjei NYR y 15.8 372 399 99
225 Oscar Klefbom EDM y 22.0 319 346 94
160 Jason Pominville MIN   35.0 248 250 88
408 Jannik Hansen SJS   6.3 483 412 75
163 Mathieu Perreault WPG   33.7 232 234 69
88 Patrice Bergeron BOS   61.5 153 153 65
               
March Player Team DEF? Rating Feb Jan Change
582 Mike Ribeiro NSH   -3.9 280 220 -302
515 Derek Ryan CAR   1.9 346 403 -169
369 Loui Eriksson VAN   9.0 228 176 -141
529 Patrick Sharp DAL   1.2 396 475 -133
538 Jiri Hudler DAL   0.3 429 424 -109
417 Jeff Petry MON y 5.9 329 496 -88
342 Brandon Dubinsky CBJ   10.9 266 241 -76
262 Mike Cammalleri NJD   16.9 191 206 -71
               
March Player Team DEF? Rating Feb Jan Change
297 Kenny Agostino STL   14.3 NR NR NEW

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Jordan

    Sorry…(this coming from a leaf fan)

    David Pastrnak:

    Age: 20
    Goals: T-12th
    Shots: 10th (less GP than anyone ranked higher)
    PPG – 15th
    Dobber Keeper Rank: 44th

    Notes: Proven on line /w vets (Marchand/Bergeron) and drives a line without them (Krejci/Whoever)

    Lowest ranked player with a higher ppg than Pastrnak is Eichel at 23rd. I’d just would like to understand this ranking system a bit more, especially in a points only league? Guys similar to him in points and age are so much higher it’s confusing, even guys he is currently outpacing.

    • Dobber

      Sure, no problem Jordan.

      To me, Pastrnak is hitting his upside. Whereas similar players above him have a higher upside. To me. But the main reason that has knocked him a little lower – in three pro seasons he’s missed 7 games (this year), 25 games (last year) and about 10 games the year prior. In points-only leagues, if a 75-point guy misses 10 games per year, then really he’s only a 65-point guy, right? The risk to miss games is there, and it’s a pretty ‘reliable’ risk – you can almost count on him missing games. And until he plays 80 or even 78 games, he’s going to have that hanging over him

      • Jordan

        Hey Dobber,

        I can’t argue against his injury history, it’s there and it’s real. However, looking at the actual injuries I think we can pretty safely assume that an 18 yr old at 165lbs suffering minor injuries (or serious ones, RNH, McDavid etc) is a normal thing. Other injuries he’s suffered like a cracked bone in his foot came from taking or blocking a shot off his skate, that is just bad puck luck.

        If i though he was 5 or 10 spots misplaced in the rankings I wouldn’t even post to be honest ha, I just clearly believe in him a lot and I think everyone will come around to him if they haven’t already. He is now at 62 pts in 63 games (30G) and IMO at 20 yrs old has not reached his ceiling.

      • Dobber

        Yes, but when I posted this article he had 51 points in 55 games. Obviously each month a young player with no track record would move upward with continued production. I won’t shoot a player from 150th to 20th in November because he had 12 points in 12 games. But I’d move him from 150th to 110th (for example). And so on, each month.
        You see he went 62, 57, 44. Next month I’m guessing he’s 35th. But I won’t give a guy a Top 20 rating without any track record. Also, don’t overrate his upside. He’s exceeded expectations (playing with marchand) and I don’t believe there is another gear. My opinion.

  • hockeyarni

    Am I missing the Ageless Wonder on this list? Not a top 300 player yet plays top line and 2nd PP unit.
    Should I even have him on my roster?! My other options for drops would be J. Staal, Vrbata, Perreault
    Thanks for the help

    • Dobber

      Jagr is just off the list, and out of those four players I would drop Jagr

  • estarr31

    How should we value Kris Letang moving forward? When healthy, he can be the 3rd best D in the league but obviously he’s going to miss games. 65-70 games from him is still worth a lot. And if he ever does figure out how to stay healthy he could have a huge year, especially with his multi-category impact. With his age, he should be at a high level over the next two years at least.

    Through some big trades this year I’m fortunate to now have Karlsson, Byfuglien, and Letang on my roster and I’m thinking of keeping them along with Crosby and Marchand (keep 6).
    Question would be, should I keep Letang and then only one of P. Kessel, B.Wheeler, J.Carter? Or should I keep two of the latter over Letang?

    In a league that scores blocks, offensive defenseman are so valuable in this format, I have no problem keeping 3 D (start 5 Def with 9 Offense).

    • Dobber

      Offer both Buff and Letang around – whoever gets you more in a trade, move him. I’m not as certain that Buffy rebounds as you say. Letang is touch and go – next five years he probably plays 60- games twice and 70 games three times. That’s just what you get from him, but he’s close to a point per game when he plays.

      • starz31

        I don’t think Buff has a long-future ahead of him at his age and with the minutes on his body. But, for next year? Maybe two more years? He could still be provide a lot of value in a multi-cat league, even with less offensive stats. I still assume a decline, but not a huge decline just yet. I look at Chara as a fair comp, and he was scoring 70+ points in his mid 30s.

  • number54

    I feel like these rankings have become far too based on “what have you done for me lately?”, and don’t reflect keeper pool values. For instance, there’s no way that even an injured Stamkos would get traded for Logan Couture. Not even if it won me a championship would I make that deal in a keeper pool (not that I own Stamkos, but he’s a top 10 player, whether he misses the whole season or not). Or hey, how about Stamkos for Corey Perry — you know, that former superstar who’s been maligned in 4 of every 5 ramblings since Christmas?
    So, I can appreciate that the ratings tweak upwards or downwards based on current performance, but I think right now that’s eclipsing the long-term expected values of players, and in KEEPER POOL rankings, that should never be the case.

    • Dobber

      Thanks for the comment
      They are definitely based on what have you done for me lately – because that’s how owners think. I’m very active in trade talks in three different leagues in this format and my goodness, slumping players don’t get much respect at all and hot players get a ton. In a keeper!

      That being said – Stamkos is overrated. You’ve known me to say this for years and years. I had constant Malkin vs. Stamkos arguments with readers, and even other websites made fun of me for taking the Malkin side (I was right though! Ha!). Malkin was always part of this Big 3 and readers wanted me to make Stamkos into a Big 4. Now we see that Stamkos relied on St. Louis. And not only is the per-game production down, but now he’s a Band-Aid Boy too. Here are the facts: 57, 40, 72, 64 and 20 – that’s production over five seasons. That’s terrible! And if a five-year track record isn’t going to take him out of your Top 10 then I don’t know what will!

      In a keeper league, Stamkos does still hold a lot of sway. But in this kind of league – with no IR and it’s total points – how does he have more value than Couture? Any team that is competing for prize money can’t use him – his 20 points on a pro team would eliminate you from contention. Pro teams need at least 40 points from every player right now. So with five or six teams in your league not interested in Stamkos…how much value could he possible have? Half the owners in your league aren’t interested! Sure, they’ll be interested in the summer – so next month Stamkos shoots back up into the Top 15 or 20. But for this season, especially now and in this kind of league, this is his value.

      In one league, Stamkos was just traded for Joe Pavelski – and that was a deal that I criticized for giving up too much to get Stamkos. Stamkos is a 70-game, 65-point player now. Proven for five straight years (and that’s being generous), and the Stamkos owner just got all of Pavelski’s points when frankly I would have almost traded Stamkos for Pavelski even if Stamkos was healthy and had 50 points!

      Anyway, that’s my take. Stamkos still has his lovers though, that’s for sure. I’m not one.

      • estarr31

        In my keeper league, 2nd place team traded Stamkos away for Giroux to a team that’s not in the playoff race. He’s in win-now mode and needs the immediate help. Otherwise, that’s an awful trade in a normal year but now? It does make sense.

      • number54

        Okay, but would you trade Giroux for Couture?

      • Dobber

        That’s how you win. If everyone had the ‘win when you have a chance’ mentality then they would win more. Instead of the ‘naw, I’ll just build for next year rather than lose the deal and give up my future’ mentality.

        Just to see…I put Stamkos in as healthy and gave him 70 points for this season. He comes in at 24th when I do that because I had increased his injury-risk factor. I wouldn’t bet even $100 on him ever getting 80 points again. People acquiring Stamkos are acquiring a name. Similar if they acquire Corey Perry and expect an 85-point guy…they can’t acquire Stamkos and expect a 90-point guy.

        Now is not the time to acquire Stamkos. Not until more people come down to earth about their expectations on him. If he could guarantee me 80 games a year (as much as a player can – like a Wheeler or a Marchand), then he’s a Top 10 guy. But he’s going to miss 10 games a year at min

      • number54

        In his career? I’d take that bet, easily. One healthy season next to Kucherov and it’s in the bag.

      • Dobber

        See? Even you believe that Stamkos needs help (Kucherov) doing anything productive

      • number54

        I think he needs help to get the kind of numbers he did when he had St Louis to his right. Without that, I think he’s a .92 p/g player, which should be good for somewhere in the top 30, at LEAST.

      • number54

        Stamkos has averaged 0.92 points per game for the 4 years since St Louis left (if you go over the past 5 his ppg go up). Over that span, 42 players have reached that mark in any season (10+ games played)– translating to only 11 players on an average year. So put him dead last on that list if you want, because he’s a band-aid boy. That’s still 11th in the league (currently owned by Scheifele at 132.6) By all means, drop his value by 25% if you want, because he’s injured. That still puts him at a value of ~100 which would have him 30th in the league; still a cool 20 points and 20 ranks higher than Couture.

  • Mathieu

    Shouldn’t Valeri Nichushkin be disqualified from that list? It’s a bit insulting for players ranked below…

    • Dobber

      He’s owned in all three of my keeper leagues, and I would happily trade one of my lesser guys for him.

      • BrianSTC

        When do you expect him back in the league ?

      • number54

        Well, by that standard, where do you rank Kovalchuk?

      • Dobber

        I dropped Kovalchuk in one league in January. Another league still has him owned. I think Nich is back in 2018-19.

        I think Kovalchuk is worthy of cracking this list, or close to it (and he is)